Wow… I’ll say it… CREEPY…. this could be a Marilyn Manson video …. (and probably should be.)

(sung to The Beautiful People melody.) They are going to spread it, They are going to spread it, They are going to spread it, They are going to spread it …

So America ’spreads’ it’s legs for another star…. but is he a leader or is he an idol……

This is sad … using your kid for anything like this is … just wrong … If I had a kid… I’d want it to think for him/ her self.
But not these people.. was this video shot in Stepford?

E G C C C E G C C C E G C C C E G C C C E G C C C E G C C C E G C C C E G C C C….

A very hypnotic pattern…..must hug a tree… must think all this diversity is just a coincidence, must believe all change is good, must never question that Obama is gonna lead us …… Santa is real… must behave…

Blah blah blah… now I am PISSED!

The gloves are off…

If the POW choir starts backwards masking I’m gonna lose it.

Sorry… I’m OK now.

CARRY ON.

T

The video doesn’t work anymore

Guess what though kids. This is NOT new. I direct you to exhibit A – a clip from “Jesus Camp” where children do more than just sing about Bush.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxdt_f0hwUg

Obama’s not the only one.

And……..for the record………many of those kids in the video I just posted above (and their parents) would very much consider themselves “Conservative.”

Taylor,
You are correct in the “it is not just Obama stance”. I agree.
W, Hitler and several other politicians in between have indoctrinated the youth. (Fear, Pride & Change all work…) This is wrong for anyone to do in my opinion. (I am not comparing anyone to Hitler, so don’t start whining everyone….)

Please do not confuse the Christian Right with conservative… there is already enough people doing that.
I consider myself the most handsome man in the world…. doesn’t make it so…. (Damn you Don Knotts!)

I am gonna ask you to watch the video again, it scares me yes, I have no problem saying that, but these people are praying to their God to protect their leader, (which I think is a waste of time) but they are not worshipping W. (thank ….god?!?!?!?) In their minds they are “anointing” him, not vice versa, this is practiced in several religions by the laying on of hands. (Didn’t seem to work, huh?)
I have watched this entire documentary and it is quite disturbing, but not all Christians behave this way, just as not all Obama supporters sing praises and never blink.(Watch the little girl in the intro)
I think we agree again.
I admire your passion!

C’mon people, 7 year olds praising anyone other than Scooby Doo is just not natural.

PS. I am no kid, except to my Mom & Dad… and a 90 year old….R.E.S.P.E.C.T.

CARRY ON.

T

Sadly T, the term “conservative” no longer means anything. Neither does liberal. You have your own version of the term, and 100,000 other people have their own version. There is no consistency – therefore the terms are useless and we should throw them out.

Taylor,
Let’s throw them out…
I agree 100%… read my exact same point on the “TERM” Christian from a previous post:

John and John G,
I find it amusing that ‘Christian’ is a self proclamation, yet we discuss it in a concrete way. We all have a perception of what a Christian is and we all differ in that. If these discussions include all that claim to be a Christian, then I call bullshit on at least 50%.
I hereby deem myself ” A Secular Neptunian Grand Ruler of all that I survey”… doesn’t mean a thing does it?
I would love it if Christ would send a list of those that HE deems Christian so it would be easier to have parameters in this discussion. That is all…

So, any suggestions for guidelines on the terms Liberal and Conservative? J Gusty this is your forum how about some clarification to be used here…

CARRY ON.

T

How about this:

Instead of “Liberal”… let’s use COLDPLAY
Instead of “Conservative”… let’s use MOTORHEAD

In all seriousness guys… we could argue all day over word-smithing. You/We all know DAMN WELL what the differences are. Call it what you want.

The dividing line is the level of involvement by the government in areas where the private sector can, will and SHOULD take care of things. And also… in my opinion… the tolerance of (not belief in) Christianity.

All other sub-differences spring from there.

Now that was funny….

Can we use Pearl Jam as Libs and Alice Cooper as Serves….

Then label me conservative with those guidelines… (Thank Obama!)

CARRY ON.

T

Hehe!

Let’s reserve PEARL JAM for equal to “Commies” and unfortunately… Alice Cooper is a self-proclaimed Republican. So ALICE COOPER has to equal “GOP.”

That kinda sucks. Sorry Alice.

“In all seriousness guys… we could argue all day over word-smithing. You/We all know DAMN WELL what the differences are. Call it what you want. The dividing line is the level of involvement by the government in areas where the private sector can, will and SHOULD take care of things. And also… in my opinion… the tolerance of (not belief in) Christianity.”

Gusty – you use those terms as much as anyone. Look at your tagline! We DONT know what the differences are because it’s not that clear cut anymore. “Us vs them” or “2 teams” or any of that is an archaic philosophy carried over from the 60s. Propagated by Baby Boomers, the worst generation, who’s time is just about up.

The video which John originally referenced is still on youtube. Glenn Beck discussed it on his show. He sait it “may as well have been made by M. Night Shyamalan it’s so creepy”. I don’t know that I would consider it “brainwashing” or “child abuse”. They were taught to sing a song, they probably don’t understand anything they are saying. I do find it reprehensible to use kids to sing a song worshipping a politician. And whoever wrote the song needs to keep their day job. But what’s really scary is how many videos there are like this.

I just stumbled upon a great documentary freely available on Hulu: Split: A Divided America. Great stuff.

Watch it here: http://www.hulu.com/watch/37403/split-a-divided-america

but wait kids there’s more!

next up “the marxists”…a children’s choirs singing songs about obama sung to the tune of your favorite richard marx hits!!

Just to make it abundantly clear … I am and will always be independent … so I guess you could say that I am watching the 2 sides, that are not so far apart, weaken each other. I do not claim to have all of the answers… but I am quite sure that a 2 party system isn’t such a good idea anymore. Taylor to make 1 generation a scapegoat may be a little harsh. I don’t have the stats… but I think in an election it takes voters of all ages to claim victory. In my view the worst generation is the 1st one… they chose to breed….

I’ll check out the video, Taylor, after the debates. It is sort of like watching the Super Bowl featuring my 2 least favorite teams! I may like some players for both sides…. but the coaches…… well…..

CARRY ON.

T

Taylor,

I don’t have a problem using the terms “Conservative” or “Liberal”. Obviously. It was you arguing with Tony over the word-smithing. I don’t care what tags you want to give the two ends of the ideological spectrum. Call one end “Asparagus” and the other end “Broccoli” if you want. The two ends of the spectrum exist, and most reasonable thinkers acknowledge the different belief principals of each.

Again, I think this “spectrum” is just a fantasy created by pundits who feel that to justify their jobs, they have act scientific and classify this stuff. It’s a self-fulfilling prophecy to some degree. Political science students are taught it in college, and keep on perpetuating it. Never stopping to really observe or question whether it really does or should exist.

The truth of the matter is there IS no spectrum for most level-headed, logical people. People who interpret each issue on it’s merit and importance to their lives, not where it falls in some disjointed ideology. So throw the words out, as I said, but don’t pretend made-up sides exist where one has to base their ideology. It’s a mental trap.

Tony – to your point, I’m simply stating baby boomers have been the MOST destructive in terms of our national condition. And say what you want about the man, the fact that Obama ISN’T a boomer is what fuels a lot of the blind admiration for him. When he talks about “change” – to a lot of people it means “not a baby boomer.” Sure, he has to bring Biden along for the ride, but Biden isn’t the principal on the ticket.

Taylor,
I got your point … mine was just a feeble attempt at humor.
To my recollection I have NEVER said anything directly about Obama, so for the record:
1. He is a gifted speaker.
2 .I don’t know if anyone has pointed this out or not, but he is part black.
3. He chose a baby boomer as a running mate.
4. He seems to have not said anything to make me hate him or love him…or even care.
5. He inspires people to tell me to vote for him because things will “CHANGE”.

For anyone that thinks “change” means I am “not a baby boomer”, and then that person chooses to vote for that reason… well, the proof is in the reasoning, alot of liberals vote for anyone railing against anything …

As for the spectrum , I think it does exist however I don’t think it is as clear as it should be.

Honestly… if there is “no spectrum for logical or level-headed people”, then I am one crazy dude surrounded by several varying degrees of lunatic (insert music business joke here) , the artists are 90% left wing and the business people are 75% left wing. By the way, the remaining 10% and 25% respectively are in Christian/Country music…
When I do a “Christian” artist I get to hear about how abortion and gay marriage are all that matters.

If I logically interpret this issue as I have been exposed to it. There is a spectrum of absolutes here for many.
So my question is this…
Is your theory on no spectrum correct OR is your theory on logical interpretation from ones own life wrong, because my logical conclusion from my own experience is… there IS a spectrum.

I enjoy this discussion with you, so please don’t take this as an attack take it as a use of your theories to further my knowledge.

Now for my 2 cents…
Actually post debate I like both Biden and Palin better than I did before. But still no vote from me for the the used car salesman or the milf.
Unfortunately I think the VP candidates are very important on this ticket …. for very obvious reasons.

CARRY ON.

T

Hail Obama….It will be the new national anthem…..
Can’t they see where this is going????

CASTRO ANYONE??????

Tony, I think the perception of a spectrum is there because so many people have never bothered to believe anything else. So they tune into Fox or CNN and see pundit after pundit reaffirming this – and subconsciously get bogarded into figuring out their afiliation. Then when regular demographic polls are run, they give that pre-programmed response.

When you or I look at voter demographics, this left > right ideological divide suddenly appears, but when you REALLY drill down and start getting people to explain themselves, you’ll find the spectrum sort of dissolves and you’re left with individual people who have an amalgamation of beliefs from all across the map. But you can’t “package” that or herd people into nice little niches for voter manipulation or media empire-building. And as an aside, I’ll say it right now – Capitalism, for all it’s wonder, has been the worst thing to happen to politics.

Taylor,
The flaw with your stance is that these people vote. They vote directly in line ” Dem/Rep” to the percentages that I gave you. That is a fact.
I understand your point as to variance in beliefs but that doesn’t change the fact that when they cast their vote it is right in step to the party lines. I am here, as I have spoken, to make the point that you can vote for individuals that come closest to your belief structure and values. Not stand up for a single party.
Right now , for President the Libertarian candidate is closest to my beliefs…
See my article in “WELCOME TO MY NIGHTMARE” here at this site. You are preaching to the choir when it comes to personal responsibility and individual stances.
You are obviously liberal on many issues and that is your choice. But you CAN, as you say …”package” and “herd people into nice little niches for voter manipulation” … that is called the modern Democratic Party. Environment , Pro -Choice, Anti-Wall street, Anti-gravity, Anti-Christ, Antiperspirent, Socialized medicine, Save the whales, Save Ferris Bueller … you get the point. All of these people will vote Democrat this election… and they really have separate agendas, yet will all untie under the Blue Flag. That is the exact opposite of your theory but that IS what’s about to happen and we all know that.

As far as capitalism, well …. the truth is…… I can’t be very civil about your claim on that so I will. just say… there is a freedom here to say what you will, and you exercised that.
There is a freedom here to NOT say what you want….
and I will exercise that.

Hanki ,
I think that you are more correct than people will give you credit for, Perhaps you should state your case clearly and concisely, so people will chime in.

PS. Taylor, I will assume at this point that you are not going to directly answer my question from the last post. I will bet on you thinking me ill-logical at this point.

CARRY ON.

T

Thanks Tony, I will elaborate later when I have more time. I do have some points I would like to make….

Taylor – As for your last sentence, and excuse my ignorance becuase I have not read the entire conversation.
What would you prefer to capitalism, and did it occur to you that maybe politics is the worse thing to happen to capitalism? I use the word “politics” not ‘government”. Politics is in it’s very nature no different than the advertising business, ie, persuading someone to buy your product over another, which is a display of capitalism in it’s purest form. This not only applies to campaign politcs, but what goes on on the House and Senate floor every day.

Personally I would rather watch the chick fil a cows than another campaign ad.

Hail Obama! Has anybody seen Colenel Klink?

Boys! You need some femininity up in here (and I don’t mean lame Palin type femininity – really, winking during a debate, come on).

Anyway, you’re all right – and that’s what I’m laughing at. Yes, there are two ends of the spectrum (um or it wouldn’t be a spectrum). However, voter demographics specifically for THIS presidential election are showing that those “spectrums” are not where folks are voting. They are stepping out and across and around their “usual” spectrum.

In my opinion, we ought to do away with the “spectrums” and just start voting on the freaking issues instead of your preference for ass or elephant!!!

Jane!!!!!!!!!!

Glad you are here! But what about those of us who don’t like ass OR elephant?!?

I want CONSERVATIVE options!

JGusty

Then you’ll have to work and mobilize your fellow voters to dismantle this prehistoric system of two viable parties. I don’t choose either the ass or the elephant either. I choose based on what their feet do and not what their mouths say. Been burned by that one before

And you know how I feel about “conservative” so more than likely I might not be the gal to assist

So last week I was working out at the “fitness center” in my condo complex. It is equipped with a nice LCD TV mounted on the wall. There was a latin woman a bit older than me working out and we were both watching the political commentary on HN.
They were doing a piece on Sarah Palin and I was thinking to myself “gee, I bet this woman hates Sarah Palin”. It was a stereotype. We all do it but no one ever gets chastised or fired until someone finds out, so I proudly admit “I have a problem stereotyping people”.
Anyway back to the story…..
The coverage then changes from Palin to Obama and in a thick accent I hear “I hate that mayne”. I said “excuse me?” and this time I heard it more clearly. She said “I hate that man”.
“So you hate Obama?” I asked.
She responded by telling me how she grew up in Cuba and the rhetoric she hears from Obama reminds her so much of Fidel Castro. She took another look at the screen and said “He is no good for this country”

Lets stop for a moment and go back in time…..

Fidel Castro was a young charasmatic leader who won over his people by promising health care, and homes, education, and equality for all. I am sure his intentions were as noble as any reasonable leader at the time. He was doing what He thought was best for the GREATER GOOD and everybody bought it because he was so passionate and charasmatic…

Decades later, they have been anything but a respectable country from an economic, human rights, or any other standpoint for that matter. Other than being a military base for the USSR, and a factory for under age Major League Baseball Players. They don’t have much to claim other than some beautiful beaches and good cigars, and those two redeeming qualities were there before socialism and will be there after.

Now fast forward back to the here and now. We have an eloquent, charasmatic, passionate leader who has won over the masses and no one really knows why other than the fact that he keeps saying “change”.
He wants to re-distribute wealth. Taking from the rich and giving to the “middle class”, a modern day Robin Hood with advisors. He wants to tax private business to the point of choking them(side note….Businesses don’t pay taxes. They never have and never will. Tax is a COST. What do you do with COST? You pass it on to the CUSTOMER. YOU are the CUSTOMER. YOU pay their taxes). He prefers a “windfall profits tax” regardless of the profit MARGIN. Again…..redistribution of wealth – a tried and true SOCIALIST principle, and when asked about the wealth redistribution, he says it’s just being fair. Fair is not taking from one to give to another. That’s socialism, cheating, stealing or whatever else you want to call it. He wants the government to be BIG. Why? For the GREATER GOOD. Whose going to protect the little guy who made poor decisions and never learned from them if the government won’t?
He wants the government to run our schools and dictate what we learn. Why? Because its FAIR. Everything has to be fair. I believe that is synonymous with “all things being equal”.

Now I see this video with the children chanting and what pops into my head immediately is “God Complex”.

For the first time in a while, I really don’t feel so good about “change”.

Hanki.. You are a wise man. Well put.

Jane… again… glad you are here. You may learn a thing or two about Conservatives. You know I love ya sista. But somewhere along the way, I think you got hoodwinked into the stereotype trap that so much of Liberal America seems to exist in.

And John G… you need to realize this as well:
Conservatism is an IDEOLOGY. A mindset. A discipline.
Republicans, Democrats, Libertarians… those are all POLITICAL PARTIES.

Big difference.

Ideologies and political parties don’t always necessarily match up. The reason is the acceptance of “absolutes.”

If you do not accept that there are absolutes (ie: truths/facts/rules/certainties) then you are constantly using terms like “but” or “if” and nothing is EVER concrete.

Some people have MAJOR issues with the concept of “absolutes”… hence the passionate rallying against Christianity for example. That’s a whole separate discussion unto itself and very much worthy of having.

Stay tuned.

I believe this is the more appropriate version….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHUZI1Vo76c&feature=related

OK JGUSTY. I Love ya like crazy but frankly I just don’t get it.

I think that it’s really cool that you’re very connected as to what’s going on. Well we all are or we wouldn’t be here on this site now would we? but I’m still strugglin’. Here’s a brief poli-sci on me for reference.

I gotta tell ya. We’ll never agree on the Cheney thing and I’m not as linear as you’re implying sir!

Although I certainly couldn’t lay claim as to knowing an intricate history of the man I feel I know enough (going all the way back to the Ford administration thank you very much sir). I won’t boar you with having to read the laundry list of the history of EVIL that could be unleashed upon these pages! (Maybe we could talk Cheneyisms over coffee sometime at the Red Tree. But I’m digressing real bad here.)

I know that I constantly bash Bush but I’m much deeper politically then that. I’ve been a political junkie well before his loooooooooooooooooooong DARK shadow cast a gloom over this land so foul and disgusting and wretched ………. (picture John Cleese as Tim the Sorcerer in the Holy Grail here)

OK i’m digressing AGAIN

Before Bush I was always fired up about the unconstitutional stranglehold of the two party system. I’ve stuffed envelopes for the libertarians during the Harry Browne era at the pilot dudes house in Mt. Juliet (which was the headquarters for the mid-tenn chapter) with the smell of pitrulie in the air from the deadheads stuffing along with the lawyers with the fancy ties and everyone in between.

I’ve paid ALOT of attention to our government going just about back to the Ford/Carter election. I remember that times were tough for the adults under Carter but man I know I did not like Ronald Reagan in any way shape or form from the first time I laid eyes on him.

OBVIOUSLY this is where yours and my philosophies took totally different directions throughout our lives. Reagan fired us up in different ways.Never liked the twits the democrats had to offer either. Mondale, Dukakis how could you get behind those guys? leaving me with NOWHERE to go.

Went Ross Perot for a spell but we all know how that all went. Remember THAT VP debate???!!!! The 90 year old admiral guy and he was the only one making any sense! What a Hoot!! Then to the Libertarians and so on …………

In other words I get it ………………even though I’m sure that I’m considered by you socially liberal.

I’ve heard alot of the conservative issues for awhile now but I don’t understand them and some of them seem to have put a president in office that made me wish for Dukakis!! so they have tended to piss me off over the last 8 years and here we are.

So help me out with some of this ……………

For instance you’ve mentioned a few times the liberal attacks on Christianity and with quite a bit of passion I might add. Which is part of why I just dig ya. But I don’t get it.

I’ve never been stopped while engaged in a Christian act by the Anti-Christian police. We all can attend the Christian church of our choice and so on ……….. Sure the ACLU goes overboard sometimes but they also do alot of good things. Kind of like the Catholic Church you might say. Or maybe even like conservatives themselves.

I’m not trying to be a smart ass but I truly don’t see it. (and I’m not talking about the extremist types like the idiots that wanted to take “In God we trust” off our money and bullshit like that. BOTH ends have their extremists). So help me out here!

If you made it this far in this diatribe congratulations. You deserve better for all the effort but it’s all I got Captain!

John G

Jane,
Femininity ? Obviously you haven’t seen me in tights and pumps… I am 1 sassy girl!!!
Please don’t forget 3rd parties. It is not just ASS & ELEPHANT ’round here. When people are voting on an individual basis per candidate, I hope to see more indie candidates be elected to office.

It seems to me that this discussion is divided by idealists and then us cool guys… (relax that’s a joke.)

In a perfect world everyone that voted would be as informed and passionate as ALL of us here. But in the real world soccer Moms watch an ad, FOX, CNN or dare I say MSNBC and then take the morning off to vote and get some shopping in. How’s that for feminine?

CARRY ON.

T

You’re right T – I’ve not seen you in tights – and frankly, I’m pretty sure that I’m a better woman for it

And I hear what you’re are saying about third parties, but you missed my point about having NO parties – just issues. Imagine would would be elected then!?!?!?!?!

JGusty – I’m pretty sure that I’ve not been hoodwinked along the way, but rather allowed my beliefs and ideals to guide my way. I admit that sometimes I talk more than I act, but if you will recall, I have spent many hours actually physically working for candidates/beliefs/ideals (and won) that I believe in. So I feel like I’ve put my money where my mouth is. In additional to my political volunteering, I’ve done hours upon countless hours of volunteering for non-profit organizations that make a difference in people’s lives each and every day.

And I’m glad I’m here as well. You boys need a woman to shake things up around here!!

Jane,
Well Jane … FRANKLY … not seeing me in pumps and tights WILL keep your self esteem in tact!
If you notice I never tell someone that they missed my point, that is kind of like saying ‘you just don’t get it’ to a person. I got it, that is why I spoke of idealists…in a perfect world parties would not exist, I agree. But, since that will never happen, I want several parties so we can choose on individual merit for each office/issue.

Man, I thought that was obvious … you just don’t get it!!!!

Get it?

CARRY ON.

T

Tony I’m with you on the third party thing all the way.

I was proud of the re-count in ‘04 that the Greens and Libs made happen. They uncovered alot of shit that never made the news. It literally broke my heart that nobody seemed to notice and when you talked to people about what was happening right under their noses you sounded like a wacko. I can without a doubt say that was the saddest I ever felt for our country.

on a totally different subject …………….I just noticed that I’ve been very rude.

Hello Jane, nice to have a womans point of view ’round here.

Fortunately, I couldn’t understand a word of it. They should have provided subtitles like the Hitler Youth clip.

You know, there is the old philosophical question that has ben asked countless times: Knowing what you know now, If you could go back in time, say to 1935 and have the opportunity to kill Hitler, would you do it?

Well, it’s 1935 all over again……..

MATT…

NEW philosophical question…. what year were you born?

The difference is I am joking …

Truth is … if Obama is the evil man that you think (loosely interpreted) he is, I will fight to defend freedom while wearing eyeliner and platforms, if I please!… I would do that even for a grunting homophobe, to keep freedom alive.
I don’t have kids to defend it for and I don’t think I’ll go to heaven in death either … I would do it just for freedom’s sake. ….. and you?

CARRY ON.

T

1962, it was a very good year.

And I would do it to defend the freedom of my fellow Americans and my children. Voting for a devout communist such as Obama is like handing over your freedom. Unfortunately, there are plenty of Americans who are willing to relinquish their freedom in favor of a government that will become their caretaker.

It’s Un-American, un-Constitutional and we as citizens have the obligation to fight for our liberty, even if it means taking up arms against a tyrannical government. It wouldn’t be the first time….

Matt

[In a well armed, well supplied home in Pegram,TN.]

Matt,
I guess that we agree that freedom is worth defending.
If anyone that takes power is Communist, then I and several here will be right there with you. I think Obama definitely leans towards socialism … but communism? I doubt that … But most of us here will keep an eye on him … I’ll be wearing eyeliner! (Unfortunately I think he is going to win.)

My comment about birth year (as noted) was in humor… just to be clear.

I think that we generally believe in the same small government.
But for you to attack me on looks and to gay bash, makes me wonder what your definition of liberty is.
Isn’t that liberty extended to all walks of life?
Being armed is a right and if you exercise it great …
but this is a new world and hacking skills are just as valuable…
as is diplomacy until all avenues are exhausted…

… then, if all hell were to break out (which I think is a bit alarmist, but hey it could happen) … you hold Pegram (Kingston Springs) and I’ll be holding Atlanta. JGusty you get to save the Snapper…

CARRY ON.

T

A Ghost town…. yawn… post debate…

If Pop-eye attacked Curious George … who would win? ( Humor for my like minded… )

Am I the only one going out on a limb?

CARRY ON.

T

Tony

I didn’t attack you, for your looks or for any other reason. Nor did I bash homosexuals [not that there's anything wrong with that] I just think it’s gay for men to wear make-up. Hair gel and hairspray are as far as I’ll go.

Also, I never said you don’t have the freedom to wear make-up nor did I ever suggest that freedom be taken away from you.

As for last night’s debate, McCain had some great points but he fell short of articulating them clearly. Obama was a smug liar.

Matt

Matt,
Cool.
I was disappointed in the debate too.

CARRY ON.

T

I think that’s it’s fair to say that the word “gay” (when used as an adjective) get’s thrown around quite a bit in a non-sexual way.

Both Obama and McCain had make-up on during last night’s stump-speach snore-fest. And neither one of those big-government sound-bite machines could likely do a Smith’s song any justice. (And Morrisey didn’t wear make-up)

I’m confused and in need of good manicure.

JGusty,
I was gonna go to the candidates wearing make-up but it was too easy. How about we go with the wigs of Washington and Jefferson or perhaps John Wayne with the cover-up and moisturizers … shooting a western dries a girl out.
Robert Smith … now that is what I call make-up.

CARRY ON.
T

I’ll say it, no problem.

John McCain wearing make-up is super gay.

Obama wearing make-up…..super gay.

McCain wearing blackface during Wednesday’s debate?

Priceless!!!!!!

Such bravery….