Rob,
I was not attacking you either.
I was attacking the bible, and will continue to do so when I feel it is used as a rationale in decision making. Not your god of choice… the bible.

I will say… Most Christians have no clue what it is that they truly are following when they say the bible is “god’s word” .
I’ll shut up now unless anyone wants to take this further…
JGusty perhaps a category for this, avoiding clashes for those not interested or those who choose to keep their head in the sand?

CARRY ON.
T

I understand that a “phobia” is a fear of something. My humble point was to point out that when the word “homophobia” is used, people are mostly talking about antagonistic behavior and attitude towards gays… not literal fear of gays. They are using the word incorrectly if you want to get technical.

People use that word wrong and throw it around loosely much like the word “racism” gets casually thrown around and used incorrectly.

That was my only point.

And I don’t think you’ll get any argument out of anyone in regards to the silliness of pride parades and celebratory days at theme parks. Most people would find a “We Love Big Boobs” parade or “Boobie Day” at Six Flags pretty obnoxious too.

But if there ever is a “Boobie Day” at Six Flags… I promise you all that I will tough it out and attend in order to bring you an accurate first-hand report.

Homophobia, exhibit A.

All ‘phobias’ are defined as a fear of something. How is it that ‘Homophobia’ is uniquely the only phobia which is not a fear of the particular condition identified in its name?

It can only be assumed that the term ‘homophobia’ is an invention of the left in an attempt to create an erroneous impression about those who do not condone homosexual activity. The left is attempting to create the image of people fearful of sexual freedom.

That is not the case.

Personally, I don’t give a flying crap what 2 adult homos do in private, I just don’t want to know about it. I don’t want to see it. I don’t want to be forced to condone it. I don’t even want to think about it.

And no, I don’t think gay marriage should be legalized. On the other hand, I also don’t acknowledge the government’s authority over ANY marriage. I don’t seek the approval or permission of the government in the legitimacy of my own marriage.

Screw the government, it’s none of their goddam business who I choose to marry. Same goes for any other US citizen.

[But please, stop having gay pride parades and 'Gay Day' at Disneyworld'. That shit is arrogant, selfish, gross and inexcusable.]

One other thing.

I usually have powdered sugar on my waffles when I actually eat them. I can bring powdered sugar or I’ll make pancakes (to go with the syrup) if you’d prefer. Of course if you want pancakes the question would be plain, blueberry or bannana?

It’s hard being complex

JohnG

My bad

Well I can assure that your church isn’t full of people like me, or satanists or immigrant grocers …
It is full of christians… (at least those with that claim…)

If you carefully follow the past posts then you will see that when I addressed you… JohnG …I agreed 100% on individual’s rights … and NOT ONCE quoted the bible to you. You are preaching my very point on this whole subject … the bible should not matter. Bill E and myself then went to Gay marriage along with Rob. Please review and follow the posts and I think you will see this to be an accurate account.

I was clearly addressing Rob with those quotes … on a different subject. He bravely posted that he is against “gay marriage” because of his christian beliefs which he has the right to feel that way. We were addressing Christianity and the book that gives them their basis, and he was doing just find for his stance… this had NOTHING to do with individual rights.

How I posed my question, hit a sore spot? How about I answer you the same way that YOU answer the offended christian conservative….

I would like to continue a discussion if you want … but we agree on this point of not legislating morals.
JohnG, I got your point and moved to a different conversation.

We can agree all day long on individual’s rights if you want, we can allow Rob his rebuttal to me about the bible or we can have waffles. Your call… you bring the syrup.

CARRY ON.
T

I don’t think the term “homophobia” is being used to literally mean “fear.” I think that it’s meant more as an antagonistic attitude towards people who happen to enjoy sex with their same sex.

Antagonistic attitudes are just child-like and annoying.

Most people simply don’t care who is having sex with who. What is also annoying are people who feel the need to have to tell everyone what their sexual practices are. It’s not just annoying; it’s very presumptuous to think most people care to know.

Big boys and girls don’t need to announce it to the world.

You said: “What individual? The Christian and the Homosexual (in general) are in complete opposition on your subject. Which individual gets the nod.”

I looked back at my post and just as I thought I never said anything about Christians. If you’re trying to say that Christians would be offended if gay marriage were allowed then my answer is. So what? I keep bringing up the constitution because it protects individual rights against exactly that situation. In this case there are more Christians then there are gays in this country. The constitution says that regardless of that fact the minority still has rights.

I keep bringing up the constitution and you’re bringing up the Bible. For me PERSONALLY the Bible carries alot of weight. But as for governing the country the constitution is literally the law of the land ………..not the Bible. Yes homosexuality is forbidden in the Bible and is a sin. However that’s not the case in the constitution. If the Christian right has their way and gets enough people elected to amend the constitution then we have a whole different ballgame. But as of now that’s not the case.

The way that you posed the question hits a little bit of a sore spot with me. And maybe you didn’t mean it this way. But the way that you phrased “What individual? The Christian and the Homosexual (in general) are in complete opposition on your subject. Which individual gets the nod.” goes with the surefire word game that Christian conservatives just love to play. How is not denying gay marriage infringing on ANYBODY being Christian? They call it the “Defense of marriage” act. As if allowing gay unions has anything whatsoever to do with hetro marriages. Bill and Steve getting married doesn’t lower the value of my marriage to my wife one single bit.

Legislating morality is not only a slippery slope but in this country it’s just plain wrong IF peoples behavior doesn’t TRULY have an effect on other peoples rights. THAT is my point. It’s not the governments job to make sure that the citizens act morally. That’s more known as Big Brother.

If you’d like to “carry on” (shoutin’out to ya’ brotha) with the conversation of church and taxes and gay marriage within the church we can have that convo too

JohnG

WTF is that?

I don’t know anybody who is afraid of homos.